Then I tried threading the needles but the knotters wouldn't catch the twine. The needles would run up through the knotters, and the twine wouldn't catch in anything. I don't have a manual for an Allis baler (probably where I should have started; I have NH and MF manuals that I thought would be sufficient).

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Post Reply. Quote HagerAC. Report Post. Thanks (0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 Mar 2011 at 10:33pm. The first model to debut (the 200) was built in England. The rest of the balers, 302, 303, 442, 443, and 444 were all A-C made, and great balers too. 30+ A-Cs ranging from a 1928 20-35, to a 1984 8070FWA, Gleaner R52. KevinON.

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The case 133 had the knotters on the side. A neighbor had a Case baler with knotters on the side, powered by a two cylinder Wisconsin engine. The pick-up was actually a chain driven set-up. It …

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Re: Massey Ferguson Model 10 baler in reply to Mike Dixon, 09-30-2004 16:26:09. There are no hash marks on the baler for you to time it by. First, turn the flywheel over until the packer forks are 3"+/- from the plunger. Make sure the plunger is on the return stroke, and the packer forks are moving to the right.

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For most of the world, there are two basic knotters: the Raaspe single knotter and the Raaspe double knotter. The single knotter is more commonly found on small square balers, both two- and three-tie …

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Anyway, Allis built quite a few square balers through the years to compliment it's Roto-baler. The early balers, 200, 300, etc. had A-C knotters & the later ones wore New Hollands, I think. Thought they had an inline baler designed, too.

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But knotters ass is about $1000 each. 1955 WD45 Diesel, 1959 D14, All-Crop Drill, 303 Square Baler, 2015 John 5075e, New Holland 279 Haybine, New Holland 575 square baler, 5ft roto-tiller, 5ft rotary cutter, 10 …

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I had a wire tie IH 47 baler. IH always knew how to make a wire tie baler work but until they went to the All Twine knotters on the 440 and 430 balers their twine knotters were problematic at best. To the point a lot of 37 and 47 balers had All Twine knotters retrofitted.

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09-14-2004 11:21:24. Report to Moderator. Re: IH 46 baler problems in reply to 86turbodsl, 09-14-2004 07:25:25. make sure that the knives that cut the twine are set right. I had to put washers under their bolts to get them lined up right. If they do not cut the twine properly it will cause problems.

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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:17 pm Post subject: IH 430 Baler issues. Last winter I picked up an old IH 430 small square baler. Yesterday I baled a very small field and it made 35 nice heavy tight bales. This evening I started baling a 40 acre field, hit went through the first 15 bales and then it started messing up on the knots on the left side.

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Posted by Alex Rogers on March 09, 2004 at 16:49:12 from (148.63.247.72): I've been working on a 303 baler for my neighbor. I cleaned it up and ran some hay through it. Then I tried threading the needles, but the knotters wouldn't catch the twine. The needles would run up through the knotter mechanisms and the twine wouldn't catch in anything.

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I had an Allis 302 baler a few years ago. I had a lot of success finding many, assumed, out of stock parts for my baler through my local & former Allis dealer. When it came to the knotters, no luck. Their …

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All the Allis square balers (to my knowledge) used Rasspe knotters, same as New Holland and many others. There were many different bill hook options for these …

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FROM humble beginnings, two brothers from North Wales set out to conquer the world of agricultural machinery. That they almost succeeded bears testimony to their ingenuity, craftsmanship and work ...

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Every time the plunger came past, went POOF, dust and dirt like you wouldn't believe! The twine-ties and automatic knotters and later, the Allis round balers made all …

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1) The wiper arm has to have the same radius as the bottom of the bill hook. Plus the edges have to have square corners. If the radius looks good and it is still slipping over the knots then it may have rounded corners that let it ride up over the knot. Use a round file and shape it to match the bill hook.

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Re: What are rasspe knotters? in reply to Bill, 06-18-2003 03:33:27. The way I heerd it, IH had the original knotter patent. When corn and grain binders were going out, the automatic baler hadn't been thought of. A forward thinking engineer over at New Holland picked up the patent for a song and the automatic baler was born.

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The and NH balers from the 50's on, for instance, used knotters made by Rasspe, but each used different models. My Deutz square baler has Rasspe knotters that have the same tucker fingers and twine arms as what the balers used, but the shaft and casting that New Hollands of the time used.

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Anyway, Allis built quite a few square balers through the years to compliment it's Roto-baler. The early balers, 200, 300, etc. had A-C knotters & the later ones wore New Hollands, I think. Thought they had …

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So I tossed out the marks on the knotter gear and retarded or advanced the knotters (can't remember now) such that the needles came into the plunger face per the manual, 3/4 inch. Also with the needles coming in late, the baler was on the ragged edge of tripping the plunger stop and that plunger stop had/has some mushrooming on its face too.

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We blew out the knotters and baler after every shift before servicing so very little build up . If we let chaff build too high around needles it would miss ties. Tony. ... Yup, that was the first (if I recall correctly) of the round balers when that Allis baler came out. And again, IIRC, it drove the ends of the twine tie into the bale? Anyhow ...

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This Cormick single knotter is typically used on balers that produce small packs of grain straw, hay and silage. The speciality of this model is that it ties the twine end to a loop. …

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Posted: 01 Jun 2023 at 9:22am. Looking for entire knotter assembly (frame and components) for a 302 AC baler. Sponsored Links.

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Although never officially confirmed, you can see a pile of similarities between the Allis balers and the British-made Long balers, which also had excellent reputations. I suspect there was some back-and-forth between the two companies. They used Rasspe knotters, as did New Holland and , so they were good knotters and parts are …

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This site is not affiliated with AGCO Inc., Duluth GA., Allis-Chalmers Co., Milwaukee, WI., or any surviving or related corporate entity. ... i do in my 303 allis baler works well same knotters as new ho;lland. David G. Members Profile. Send Private Message. Find Members Posts. Add to Buddy List. Orange Level Joined: 21 Feb 2012

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6. Turn over by hand with the knotter engaged to check the needle timing. Needles should enter the bale chamber when the plunger points have passed the needle points by 1/4"-3/4". New Holland super 66 Baler discussion in the Implement Alley forum at Yesterday's Tractors.

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Allis Chalmers; Case & David Brown; Farmall & International; Ferguson; Ford & New Holland; John ; Massey Ferguson; Massey Harris; Minneapolis Moline; ... IH baler knotters in reply to 2underage, 09-15-2015 04:47:53 Try some poly twine if you're using sisal. Poly (plastic) twine solved 99% of my knotter issues on a NH. ...

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The guy that devised knotters must have been some sort of a genius. Use a old JD grain binder. Still works almost perfectly. Donno how old it is, but have to estimate at least 70 years old. Modern day baler knotters are little different, with the possible addition of tucker fingers. It is all about timing, and having parts in proper adjustment.

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This 1913 Rumely baler is just part of a Rumely collection owned by Jesse Boller, Ashland, Neb. Note the block of wood in the chamber that is used to separate and tie each bale. ... man named Innes who built a baler that automatically tied bales with binder twine using Appleby-type knotters from a John grain binder. The machine was a ...

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The first time I saw the knotters on the 120-124 and 128 balers at service school years ago I wondered how such a simple design would work, but they work really well. Billhook turns one turn, twine disc 1/2 like other knotters. As the bale moves back it pulls the knot off the billhook.

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